Poll: cloth diapers

Posted by: kimc on Tuesday, August 18th, 2009

Now that you know why I made the switch from disposables to cloth diapers, I want to know what you think about the issue.  I'm hoping you'll take a moment to leave a comment too.

How do you feel about cloth diapers?

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I have to admit that while I love the money we're saving and the fact that I'm not chained to yet another disposable product, I do still have a few problems with cloth diapering.

We're having stinky-pee issues, and I think it has to do with our very hard water.   We've tried vinegar and/or baking soda in the wash.  I know there are other products I can buy to help, but I don't like giving up disposable diapers just to find myself committed to buying a special detergent for cloth diapers.

It's not a deal-breaker, but I really would like to find a solution.

update:  We've had some terrific suggestions already in the comments, and can't wait to try them!  Here's our current diaper-washing routine, to help those who are offering advice on our problem.

  1. Dirty diapers get rinsed/scraped, and all diapers go in a dry bucket.  We wash every 2-3 days.
  2. Cold rinse
  3. Hot wash with a little detergent, mostly homemade.  Our hot water is not very hot, and our water is very hard.
  4. We sometimes wash again with a load of towels.

How do you feel about cloth diapers?

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35 Responses to “Poll: cloth diapers”

Holly Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:13 am

Have you visited http://www.diaperswappers.com? They might have suggestions on the forums for smelly diaper help.

I use my homemade detergent (from Simple Dollar) and it seems to be fine for the baby’s diapers. Sometimes I have to wash my 3 year old’s “accident” pants more than once though. I’m not sure why!

We also help the baby use the potty when we can, so we don’t really have to deal with poopy diapers, and the wet ones only get wet once before we change them. Sort of like thick underwear!

Jeana Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:13 am

Well, it’s not an extra product for me, but it may be for you. We keep Nature’s Miracle on hand for pet messes and it also works well for any kind of body fluid clean-up. It has enzymes in it that consume the bacteria. We get it at Petco, but I think most pet supply stores carry something like it.

Anne Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:37 am

I had the same problem. I always used vinegar and baking soda in the wash, but it didn’t seem to cut it. So, every couple months, I would soak them overnight in a more concentrated solution to cut the ammonia from the pee that stuck to the diapers. Sometimes the problem is exacerbated by detergent residue. The hard water certainly doesn’t help. Some people recommend Calgon (laundry aisle at Walmart), lemon juice, and/or baking soda, and lots and lots of time in the hot sun outside.

becky Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

I never got over the stinky pee problem all of the way. It’s one reason why I really don’t want to go back to cloth diapers–all the endless time spent trying to deal with the stinky diapers.

One pee and, wham! Ammonia smell!

The only thing that helped me was bleach. I know it’s hard on your diapers and I didn’t use it on the covers (it would ruin them), but soaking in hot, hot water with bleach, using baking soda in the wash and lots of rinses with vinegar seemed to help.

Remember how you had to boil the water to get the baking soda to work in your hair? It’s very similar. The diapers have to wash in REALLY hot water for the chemicals to work on them.

How high can you turn up your water heater? Does your washer have a sanitize cycle?

All of these details make me not want to go back to cloth. I think the cost all evens out in the washing expense.

Rachael Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

If you can hang your diapers on a clothesline outside – sunshine acts as a natural bleach and will take both stains and stink out of your cloth diapers.

Stacy Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

I had the same issue. I tried the vinegar too. The best thing I found was the sun!

Becky Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

I can’t remember if you’re using hemp. We had stinky pee issues with ours and I had to boil mine to really get out the soap residue. But, we’ve been fine since as I’ve been anal about how much soap we use to wash and trying to cycle them through an extra rinse regularly.

We also use Charlie’s and I’ve found that a half a scoop is plenty. I also add 10 drops of tea tree oil to the rinse to help kill bacteria in a gentler way than bleach. You already line dry, correct?

When you are in the rinse cycle, do you see any bubbles? If you do, then you should use less soap. Of course, with the hard water, you might need to go with more. Some people also report that vinegar causes more problems than it solves but I’ve always used it without trouble.

Finally, have you ever really inspected your washer’s innards? I know one woman who had lingering stink issues and finally took apart her washer only to discover that it had all sorts of yuck from previously using too much softener, detergent, etc.

Jamie - Family Focused Fun Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Have you tried soaking them in borax? I never had any smell problems with pre-folds but when I switched to fitted diapers the multiple layers was causing smell problems. I would soak them in water with a small amount of borax and it did help! Good luck! :-)

laura Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

eucalyptus oil!!! i had just about given up on my cloth diapers; i had tried everything. then i tried putting eucalyptus essential oil in at the same time as the soap (i use 6-8 drops). it knocks out everything from pee smell to musty, left-it-in-the-washer-too-long smell. now, i never do stinky laundry without it!!

Karen Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

I love my cloth diapers. I am just now returning to them after a break for the summer while we ran all over the world (ok, so only all over TX but it’s still a big place.) Have you ever looked up the idea of stripping your diapers? I just did this to my bumgenius and need to do it to my prefolds. You can do a search on stripping diapers. I have also tried the vinegar and baking soda. I finally decided to soak my diapers for a while in

Karen Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Sorry for the double post. I have an aggressive nurser whose hungry and she hit the computer. grrrr!!!!! oh, she’s distracted with a sliding box and a 2 yod.

As I was saying, I decided to soak my diapers in very hot water with about 3/4 cup of Bio-kleen Bac Out. Then I hung them outside in the sun. They smell so good.

When I dry my diapers inside, I put a special essential oil on my wool dryer balls, about 2-3 drops. It’s called Purification. It takes odors out of almost everything. I bought the oil a year ago and I still have tons of it. I also use one of their natural cleaners called Thieves in my wash with my diapers. The Thieves Cleaner is concentrated and safe. I replaced nearly all my store bought cleaning supplies except my glass cleaner. It’s safe enough for my 4 yod to use on our school desks each week. Kills germs better than bleach. I bought all these oils and cleaners through Young Living (I am a distributor.) I also use this other and few others in my natural medicine cabinet. (How’s that for a plug. I make no money off the sale of my oils.)

These are the things I use for smells in my diapers. I need to strip my prefolds as well but I am not using them as often.

I hope you are able to solve the problem. The smell was part of the reason that I stopped using them this summer. I am struggling with very low energy and a bit of depression so I just didn’t feel like working to get the smell out. It’s amazing what iron can do a person without it. :) I am a new person now.

Sarah Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

i occasionally have stink issues with my bub’s nappies, but following the instructions that came with them helped a heap. when they start to stink, do a wash with DISHWASHING LIQUID of all things.

wash them as you normally would, but with a good squirt of dishwashing liquid instead of whatever laundry detergent you use, then rinse them a few times to make sure all the bubbles are gone.

ive also found the dishwashing liquid helped clear out a bunch of gunge left in the machine from all the fabric softener my mother used to use.

Rebekka Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

What with this and the baking soda in your hair story, it sounds like you guys have really hard water. I’d look into something like Calgon – I seriously use it in every wash (but I live in Europe and our washers only have cold water access, so they have heating elements, which can be damaged by too much hard water buildup). I don’t know if there’s a DIY version.

How is your turnover rate with laundry? Do the diapers dry out and then sit for a day or two or a week, or do you soak them until they are washed? (Sorry don’t use them myself, I don’t have kids, but I’m a nurse so I’m used to the leaky old lady smell – and once urine has actually dried on clothes it’s harder to get the smell out.)

Susan Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

Dear Kim,

As a retired nurse, I have spent many years fighting laundry-related smells, stains and germs.

I am a firm believer in the power of Chlorox bleach (or a store brand). Bleach gets a bad rap because it can be dangerous if used carelessly. It is poisonous and you have to be careful not to mix it with other cleaners such as ammonia, which will generate fatal fumes. Obviously, it must be handled by the older children and kept out of reach of the curious young ‘uns. Also, if you use too much, it can damage fibers, especially elastic.

If you research the data, you will learn that household bleach is highly reactive. This means that it “spends” itself as it encounters bacteria and ultimately breaks down into harmless water and oxygen. People get confused re: industrial bleach (used in making paper) which leaves behind gruesome dioxin compounds. Common household bleach poses no health or environmental risks if used correctly. In my opinion, homemakers have been led to believe that bleach is somehow kryptonite to humans. It is not. It has its place in the vanguard of solutions we use to kill germs that make things smelly and make us sick. The key is finding the right amount that will kill the germs without disintegrating the fabric.

There is no need to use as much as the label calls for (1 cup per load is far too much for most household scenarios). My rule of thumb has been this: if you can smell a strong bleach odor at the end of the wash/rinse cycle, then you have used too much. It’s been a long time since I needed to wash stinky items, but 1/4 cup per large load will most likely take care of any smells without harming the fabric. Hard water does not interfere with the antimicrobial action of household bleach.

Please consider giving household bleach a try.

Kind regards from,

Susie Tyner

Tiana Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:27 am

You may be using too much detergent. Most diaper manufacturers recommend 1/2-1/4 of the normal amount of detergent. You should also be doing an extra rinse at the end of your wash cycle.

Most people say a cold rinse, a hot wash, and an extra rinse are all you need. However, if you are having trouble with stinky diapers, you may want to try this method:

1-Cold wash with just the dirty diapers. Use 1/4 the regular amount of detergent and 1/2 cup washing soda (this is stronger than baking soda)
2-Add your wet diapers and do a warm wash the same way
3-Do a final hot wash the same way with an extra rinse
4-Do a “sniff test”–if they don’t smell clean, wash them in hot once more

I’m actually doing some research right now about the kinds of diapers parents use and why. I’d love to include you and your readers opinions in my study. You can participate by filling out my diaper survey here:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cjVCME83a3hKZ1Vzb0t0VENSQVRjLUE6MA..

Thanks In Advance!

Stephanie Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:36 am

Used cloth with my three youngest. I never really had a problem with the diapers stinking. I would rinse them once in the washer, and then run them through a wash cycle using vinegar. Are you line drying? The sun may help with the problem.

Tiana Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:53 am

With all respect, Susie, bleach ruins cloth diapers. It eats away at the fabric and significantly shortens their lifespan. I used bleach on a batch of diapers with my first baby, and those diapers lasted about half as long as the ones that I did not bleach. It also voids the warranty on most diapers.

Another idea to try is to do a couple of hot washes and extra rinses in a row, without any detergent. That can really help with any build-up. I had to do that once when my baby was getting a diaper rash. It worked very will.

Blessings!

Angie Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:21 am

I’ll keep this short and sweet….

Instead of a dry bucket, try water and a bit of detergent in the bucket. Toss your dirties right in. Change the water each time you wash the diapers.

That’s what I always did.

kattmaxx Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:39 am

Another cloth diapering mom said on her blog that every once in awhile she fills up a large canning pot an boils them. This makes them more absorbent too since it strips any residues off of them.

Julie Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:51 am

I also have hard water in my area. Using Calgon at every wash seemed to help, but was getting expensive, as only the liquid was available in any local store.

Instead, I strip my diapers and inserts (I use one-size pockets) every couple of months with dish detergent (Dawn) to get rid of detergent/ointment buildup, and then I strip the hard water minerals out with a product called RLR laundry treatment. You can order some cheaply at thekitchendrawer.com. Diaperpin.com has a lot of great advice and user ratings for cloth diapers and accessories, including cleansers.

It is very important not to regularly use boiling water, bleach or even vinegar and baking soda on next-generation cloth diapers which have a waterproof layer built into them (like many pocket or all-in-one diapers). They can destroy the waterproofing. BumGenius does not even recommend RLR for mineral stripping, only Calgon, but I have not had problems using it.

My diapers used to stink and leak before I started this cleaning regimen, but they have been working great for a year now. I linedry my diapers about 90% of the time, and use Allen’s Naturally liquid soap to wash them. At $50 for a gallon, it seems very expensive, but I have only used half of the jug after a full year of laundering a dozen diapers, inserts and cloth wipes every other day. I will probably be able to potty train before I run out.

BTW, I am not affiliated in any way with any of the products or websites mentioned.

Shari Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:16 am

Glad to meet another cloth user. First you want to strip your diapers and your washer. google stripping washers for that. I kept having stinky issues and had tried various ways of stripping, but the only way that worked for me was to soak overnight in oxyclean water. It needs to be very hot and use like 10 scoops of oxyclean, leave it soak for like 6hours or more. Then rinse a few times in the washer. Once stripped you need to find the wash routine that works for your water. You can find out by using a pool kit what your ph is in the water so you know if you need baking soda or vinegar or nothing extra. You might not be using enough detergent since you said you use only a little. Also make sure you have enough water in the washing machine. We have a front loader so I add more hot water to the wash cycle.
This is my wash routine:
1 cold short wash cycle(this has a short wash and 2 cold rinses)
Then one long hot wash with one scoop of Charlies soap, it’s the one that works for us and we only use it for diapers, I also put 2tbsps bleach in the hot wash, and fill the softner dispenser with vinegar. I make our detergent for our clothes, but since Charlies works for us I don’t want to mess with that.
After the long hard wash I have the washer set for 4 cold rinses.
Also if your water is hard you can add a water softner like powdered or liquid Calgon right to your wash water.
I sniff the diapers before I dry them, if they smell like anything then they are not clean and need to go again.
You can also boil them to strip them to get them totally clean before starting over.
I have read you can put a small squirt of Dawn dishsoap in with them every so often, but make sure you check the the rinse water to make sure no bubbles are there.
Feel free to email me for more suggestions.

Peace,
Shari, mom of 7!

Shari Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:18 am

Oh the other thing is to make sure you don’t have too many diapers washing at once, they need to be able to splash happily in the water. lol

Starr L. Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:33 am

I had the same problem.We have soft water here.At the time, I used a product called Wausch that removed the smell.Now I make my own homemade laundry soap and it reminds me of Wausch. Clothes line works well also.Don’t give up on cloth diapers, just keep working on different methods of trying to remove the smell.One of my children was in diapers til she was 4 1/2 years old.It took her a while to get the hang of potty training.One day I was tired and wanted to put her in a disposable because it seemed easier at the time.When she saw me comng with the disposable diaper in my hand,she took off running. She kept saying,”Pin diaper,Mommy”I asked her why and she pointed to the diaper and said,”Hot!”I never put her in a disposable diaper again.

Heather Kemerly Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

I love using my cloth diapers, but like you, through the years have had stinky pee diaper issues. The only thing I have found to work to wash them is Charlie’s Soap (which is also sold under other names at wal-mart in the hunting department so hunters clothes won’t have a smell). It is amazing, the stinky pee diaper smell is gone. It is better than bleach, especially since bleach progressively ruins diapers. I received all my diapers used, so I had to use charlie’s soap several times to strip out the other gunk soap that was in it..to notice there was no pee smell anymore. I am curious to know if the homemade soap that many of my friends use (like Duggars if you know that soap recipe), would be as effective. That would make it cheap, cheap, cheap.
Hope that helps!
Heather Kemerly…mommy to 12

V Davisson Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

My daughter was easy to train because she’d been in cloth diapers most of her babyhood. She came to me one day and said, “Mommy, wet.” What a precious moment. Potty training went very smoothly.

Shari Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

Make sure that you are not using “soap” as it leaves build up on the diapers. I love the type of laundry soap from the Duggars, but it left build up on the diapers from the soap. Detergent doesn’t use soap, or at least not a lot of it. If you do want to try the Duggars recipe cut the fels naptha in at least half.

Darleen Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

I did not have time to read all the above comments. I recommend soaking diapers in a diaper pail or 5 gal. bucket w/ water & vinegar. Just pour the whole pail into w/ machine & spin. Wash as usual. We line dried as well as used dryer. No stinky smell!

DeputyHeadmistress Says:
August 21st, 2009 at 8:50 am

I put the cloth diapers in the washer the night before with some tea tree oil and borax, both of which I always have on hand for other reasons. Then I filled the washer and stopped it, leaving them to soak over night. The next morning I drained the load and washed them. Sometimes I put them through an extra rinse. Drying them on the line was a must for really clean, white, fresh diapers.

If your washing water isn’t hot enough and you don’t want to turn up the heat, you might boil some water and pour it in the washer- this is riskier, of course. Or you could just boil the diapers over the stove, but I think that will stink up the house. You could also take a load of cloth diapers to the laundromat once every month or so and then wash them in extra hot water.

I blogged about how I handled cloth here a few months ago.

We have used cloth diapers in Japan, in California, in New Mexico, Alaska, in Washington State, Nebraska, and Colorado. I have had two in cloth diapers at a time- and honestly, there is absolutely NO way that the ‘cost evens out in the washing expense’ as one of your commenters suggests, unless your local water costs are astronomical and/or have to take them to the laundromat *every* time you wash.

Gina Says:
August 21st, 2009 at 11:40 am

Just a thought but the amount of time, energy and water you have to use and sometimes overuse because you’ve chosen cloth diapers, I’m sure that I would have switched to disposable diapers a long time ago! :-)

Shari Says:
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:03 am

Gina, with respect, it doesn’t take a lot of time once you get a wash routine figured out for you type of water/washer. On the energy and water note let’s think of how many trees, water and energy go into making 1 pack of diapers. A lot! Actually a lot more than it takes to “over”wash a load of cloth while figuring out the right routine for you. Not to mention the aweful chemicals that have been used in them, some that are potentially harmful to children. Some of the chemicals in the diapers were banned from womens products b/c of the dangers of them. There have been proven tests that these chemicals can soak through the skin and can damage organs on childred, also boys are at a higher risk of infertility. There is also the fact that babies that use disposables “trashies” have more diaper rashes. If you change every 2 hours or so like you should be doing to prevent this you go through a LOT of trashies. Would you want to were plastic underware that do not breathe and make your bottom hot and sticky 24/7 for 2 to 3 yrs? I wouldn’t.
This is not even mentioning the amount of trash you will take to the curb every week that is going to sit and rot for hundreds of years to come. Oh and did you know that even if you use trashies you are still supposed to dump as much poo into the toilet as you can before throwing the diaper away? Says so right on most of the diaper packages.
I haven’t even touched on the gas spent to run to the store for more diapers.
Cloth still comes out to the advantage for the environment and family using them.

Shari~mom of 7

PS
I am not a tree hugger, nor do I believe in global warming. I do however believe in being a good steward of my resources.
I am also not anti-trashie use and do use them on occasions like for vacations where I will not have access to a washer, ect. They have their times for use, but I will never go back to them for full time. When you know better, you do better.
Blessings

Annaelisabeth Says:
August 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm

We’ve not had this problem with smelly diapers. We are in the UK and have cold water fill for our washing machine. This is standard here-we wash the diapers at 60 degrees centigrade which is what the manufacturers recommend plus a standard rinse cycle. I wonder whether you have a shorter rinse cycle-we have front loading machines which take longer. Any I right in saying that in the US, you usually use top loaders?
We use a standard non-biological washing powder (from Lidls-a bit like Aldi) We usually dry the diapers outside-saves loads of money.
HTH.

Jeff9 Says:
August 23rd, 2009 at 3:55 am

The best way to clean cloth diapers is to pre-rinse them off in the toilet using a Hand Bathroom Bidet Sprayer. So convenient and if you are trying to help the environment (and your pocket book) you can give it a double whammy by virtually eliminating toilet paper use by using it on yourself also. I’m not sure how many people know this but that is what they were originally created for. I think Dr. Oz on Oprah said it best: “if you had pee or poop on your hand, you wouldn’t wipe it off with paper, would you? You’d wash it off” Available at http://www.bathroomsprayers.com they come in an inexpensive kit and can be installed without a plumber. Now we’re talking green and helping the environment without any pain. One review: http://jonathanandandrea.blogspot.com/2009/04/spray-it-or-scrub-it.html

MaryB Says:
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am

A long time ago I switched from a diaper service (gasp! what’s that?) to washing my own diapers. I was a professional with a job, so I didn’t have extra time. But it was EASY, EASY. If the diaper was soiled, I just swished the contents into the toilet. As for smells, I used a little bleach in the diaper pail/laundry. We never had smells, stains, or diaper rash. I also did not fold diapers — too time-consuming. I just stuck the clean diapers in a cubicle below the changing table.
Frankly, I can’t see why families want to put up with the smell of soiled paper diapers (in the house or garage) and pay the exorbitant amount of money for paper diapers when washing diapers takes almost no more time than paper.
And yes, putting diapers in sunlight will make them (or anything else) smell great.

Starr L. Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 9:06 am

My 3rd born was able to tell me that she didn’t want paper diapers, she wanted pin diapers. She told me that the paper diapers were HOT, HOT, HOT, MOMMY! When I had a miscarriage earlier that year, I wore a Depends undergarment. It was so HOT I could barely stand it. From then on I tried harder to use paper diapers as little as possible. If a mom is so concerned that her child is not too cold shouldn’t she try to make certain that they are not too hot?

Faiza Smith Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 2:33 pm

I cloth diapered my four little ones (I have 5, but did not learn about cloth when my eldest was born). The one thing I did, and still do for my 11 months old right now, is to rinse all the diapers, soiled or not(I realized that the peed ones stink a day after it’s been used), before storing them for laundry day.

When rinsing, I squirt a little dollop of antibacterial handsoap. Another thing I do once a month for cloth diapers, is to soak them in water with very little bar of soap melted in it. Stains gone, and the smell of clean breeze emanates from my white diapers. Heaven!

 

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